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Old Apr 30, 2008, 12:15 PM // 12:15   #81
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Man what a lovely debate, 4 pages of "Interupts" I play a sin all the time. I dont PvP much mostly due to crappy connection/lag. But I can tell you that signets do indeed go through SF. Not only that but certain things that strip inchants, make a sin go from 500+ life to 40. A one hit win for waiting melle.
There is no need to nerf the skill. Its for noobs having fun and certain farm builds. just because some retard was griefing in AB or something dont screw with my farming. Play better or Play WoW.

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Old Apr 30, 2008, 12:29 PM // 12:29   #82
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And there are lots of counters to it too. Using spells or skills which damage all nearby enemies or skills which remove enchantments are instant kills against shadow form sins. PvP isn't the best place to use shadow form unless you want to commit suicide...often
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Old Apr 30, 2008, 12:31 PM // 12:31   #83
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there is no reason to hit shadow form cause someone can't bring some kinda interupt for it.
For all intents and purposes it's a 48 second near-invincibility spell with a 60 second recharge. Casting it while you're out of range of any opponent and then running in and shadow-stepping is not only a viable way to avoid the initial interrupt, it's a key to the griefing mechanism.

Shadow Form's only real use in PvP is griefing, it's "legitimate" use is farming faction in RA and TA. It might as well just be a PvE-only skill.
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Old Apr 30, 2008, 08:41 PM // 20:41   #84
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SF on sin is like the last thing you should be worried about in PvP.
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Old Apr 30, 2008, 08:47 PM // 20:47   #85
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Wow....
The reason it should be nerfed PvP-wise is because: It's used for griefing, in ALL PvP gametypes.
And these 'counters' fail against everything else, and there are better options apart from that. Wasting bar space makes you have less chance against real builds.

Maybe you might aswell /Resign because it's 1 fame and they'll lose on a strategic map, but we shouldn't be having griefers anyway, because it wastes time, we shouldn't have to build against them or face them anyway.

Griefing should be stopped in general.
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Old May 01, 2008, 05:45 AM // 05:45   #86
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Just make SF a PvE-only skill.
This is probably the best suggestion by far that doesn't completely destroy my uber-leet PvE sin farm build.
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